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: Law Blog - WSJ.com?I知 a Trial Lawyer. I Bill by the Hour . . . This Needs to be Fixed.?
By Dan Slater
I’m a trial lawyer. I bill by the hour. So do the associates who work for me. I have lots of clients, so I can pretty much work, and bill, as much as I want. This needs to be fixed. Yes, you read that correctly.
– Evan Chesler, managing partner of Cravath, Swaine & Moore, writing in Forbes
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Evan Chesler, a Cravath lifer and the firm’s presiding partner, has become the most recent high-profile lawyer to call for the end of the billable hour. In the upcoming issue of Forbes, in an article called “Kill the Billable Hour,” he writes: “The billable hour makes no sense, not even for lawyers. If you are successful and win a case early on, you put yourself out of work. If you get bogged down in a land war in Asia, you make more money. That is frankly nuts.”
Chesler’s bold prose makes for a good read. Intrigued, we rang him up.
Hi Evan. How壇 we get stuck with the billable hour to begin with?
Somewhere, someplace, once upon a time, somebody said to a client, 的知 going to charge you for each hour I spend on your matter.� And that client said, 徹K.� And from that a seed was planted, and a tree grew. I believe it痴 time to plant new a new seed.
Many have called for the end of the billable hour. Have you seen any indication it could really happen?
Our firm has been doing alternative-billing arrangements. But you have to have an agreement with clients who are interested in doing it. At the end of the day, clients have the power of the purse.
At many firms associate bonuses are tied to billable hours.
That痴 just a function of how law firms are doing it now. We don稚 have any such quotas here. We don稚 pay bonuses based on hours. I read in the papers that some firms do. I suppose that some firms, if they went to this kind of new paradigm, would need to change those metrics.
How would they do it otherwise?
The metrics should have always been: How well is a lawyer doing? How attentive to detail is she? How thoughtful is she? How creative? The good thing about what lawyers do is that educated observers — which is what a partner supervising an associate should be — can measure it. I don稚 mean who wins or loses. The thought is that you should be rewarded for success.
In this new paradigm could we see contingency arrangements for corporate lawyers, such as a fee arrangement that rewards the firm for successfully defending company X against a suit?
That痴 one of many models. Once people begin to think creatively about this, I have no doubt that the marketplace will foster many variations. A fee component tied to outcome will be one thing people consider.
So what do you think would be the highest hurdle to achieving a billable-hour-free world?
One is inertia. People tend to continue doing what they宋e always been doing. Change requires the application of force. Another is the difficulty of defining what constitutes success. Because in large, complex cases, that痴 not a question with a simple answer. It痴 easy to think of it in terms of a jury foreman standing up and announcing who won. But the world is more complicated that that.
So you need to have open communication with clients about expectations and value. What痴 this matter worth to the company — in terms of its bottom line, its culture, its reputation in the relative community? For instance, there are matters of principle that don稚 necessarily have a big impact on the bottom line. There are matters of reputation — companies want to be considered good corporate citizens. And there are matters that can affect stock price, and creditworthiness with lenders.
Do you think that lawyers � particularly associates � would work less if the billable hour were banished? We池e always hearing about associates who spend more time in the office toward the end of the year in order to hit that 2,000 or 2,400 hour mark.
I don稚 know. I never experienced that at Cravath. I致e always billed what I believed was necessary to get the work done. I致e never lived in a culture where anybody I knew said, 敵ee, it痴 October, I致e got to hit a quota.�
Are there firms where that痴 the case? If there are such firms, I壇 think that a world in which fees are driven by the quality of the efforts and outcome would probably lead to a more efficient utilization of resources.
The reason we ask is because, in your Forbes article, you write, 鼎lients have long hated the billable hour, and I understand why. The hours seem to pile up to fill the available space.�
The perception is that the hours fill up to fill the available space. Clients have the sense that however much time is left before a deadline, the hours will simply fill up to fill it. Our view is that you take the time that痴 needed to get the job done the right way. I知 always busy, so my incentive has always been to finish each thing as quickly as I could and move to the next matter.
Full post as published by Law Blog - WSJ.com on January 07, 2009 (boomark / email).
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